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Modern consumer-grade laptops tend to have durability issues, while business-class laptops tend to be highly durable but refurbished ones are a few generations behind. There's also smaller companies like Tuxedo, Slimbook, System76, etc that seem to make durable laptops as well. At this point, is there any mainstream consumer-grade laptop that is actually durable, or are we now limited to business and Linux laptops?

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When I talk about durability issues, I'm talking about issues like faulty ports, weak jack port, weak keyboard that breaks after a year, etc. Internal hardware itself, hinges, screens, etc, evolved a lot in durability even in consumer-grade laptops, but the faulty or weak components are always a pain.

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>but refurbished ones are a few generations behind I don't give a fuck, just explain me where to buy them CHEAPLY!

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>>1297 Varies a lot between countries. Your best bet is to look up "refurbished laptops" and see what shops in your country show up. If you are lucky there should be a few stores in your country dedicated to refurbished hardware and e-waste and they often sell 8th gen intel business-class laptops. Price ranges between 200€ and 600€ depending on the laptop and store.

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>>1298 Note for the future: avoid HP Zbooks with 45% NTSC once companies dispose of them and they start showing in refurbished hardware stores. The Zbook I work at my company has a temporary burn-in despite having an LCD screen, anything that stays for too long gets burned into the screen and slowly fades away. The 100% sRGB Zbooks might or might not have this problem but it's less likely

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>>1298 Is it reasonable to expect something good from refurbished 10th gen intel?

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>>1300 Hardware lifespan is much higher than typical consumer-grade laptops if we're talking about refurbished business laptops. The laptop overall is sturdier and meant to last. Normally when you buy them second-hand it's safe to assume you might want to replace the SSD and battery, but when they are refurbished they might come with fresh ones. A quick way to suspect it's a business laptop is if the store refurbishing them only provides laptops from dell, hp and lenovo, and they all have intel cpus

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>>1301 Most common business laptops currently in refurbished stores include think pad T/X/P series, hp elitebooks and dell latitudes

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I want 11 gen i5 with 16gb ram

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>>1303 There are some business laptops being refurbished with that intel generation but most are still in 8th gen

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